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  •   over 13 years ago

Why so many selected project more than 800 words?

I go through all 10 selected projected. And found that at least 4 projects is more than 800 words.

Please explain.

  • 57 comments

  •   •   over 13 years ago

    Will those projects will be disqualified?

  •   •   over 13 years ago

    Even the participant of sungai milik kita admit that the proposal is more than 800 words:
    http://communities.challenge.my/forum_topics/1768

  • Manager   •   over 13 years ago

    Hi,

    Thanks -- we appreciate that the community has raised this and it's a good learning point for future challenges.

    One of the entries was significantly over the word count requirement. This is an admin error and we take full responsibility for this. As it would be unfair to disqualify the submission for this reason, submissions that are significantly over 800 words will be truncated before they go to final voting.

    The word count does not include words in diagrams or maps.

    All the best.

  •   •   over 13 years ago

    Kesian for the other 500 participants who was kira the word exactly 800..BTW..this program almost like MAKEWEEKEND event..is the same company do this GENOVASI on behalf of AIM?..I would like to see at least one good innovation come out from this competation.. And hope that particpants know waht was meant by INNOVATION...its not just idea, but something that can work..if its only idea and cant be transformed into something better just say it IDEA Management..just my opinion

  •   •   over 13 years ago

    Kal J,

    "This is an admin error and we take full responsibility for this. As it would be unfair to disqualify the submission for this reason, submissions that are significantly over 800 words will be truncated before they go to final voting."

    This cannot be the excuse because those project have breach the rules. Organizer already remind participant to reduce the word count in the portal:-

    "Keep in mind that submissions that do not meet the rules may be disqualified. If your submission is more than 800 words, please edit it or re-submit it within the word limit before the deadline tomorrow."(taken from updates page)

    Since the participant refuce to reduce the word count and breach the rule, the organizer should drop the selected project and replace by other qualified project. Should be fair to other participant

  • Manager   •   over 13 years ago

    Hi Ag Ahmad,

    We would love to see these projects go beyond the idea stage and be realised. Keep an eye on this space to find out what happens next!

    Genovasi Challenge is the name of the challenge that is being driven by AIM.

    Genovasi is a "school for innovators" spearheaded by Unit Inovasi Khas (UNIK) under the Prime Minister's Office. You can find out more about Genovasi at www.genovasi.my.

  •   •   over 13 years ago

    1. In your previous statement, you say the word in the picture will be count.
    2. you only need to count the 10 selected project document. it is not hard. I done it in 30 minute.
    3. I can let you know which project exceed 800 words. If you not believe you can do a quick check.

  •   •   over 13 years ago

    In facebook:

    Challenge.MY: "Awang Ahmad Yunus: Further review of the entries showed that the previous 2 were in breach of the contest rules. We've disqualified those and replaced them with 2 more"

    But obviously the project with word count more than 800 also breach the contest rules, therefore, should drop them too

  •   •   over 13 years ago

    michelle o win two place in this challenge..COP & i witness mobile app...congrat...try submit to bigdream lar plak guys...hope the same thing is not happen again and again..peace...

  •   •   over 13 years ago

    http://communities.challenge.my/forum_topics/1879

    in the above disscussion, Kal J told us Sungai Milik Kita is chosen because other project's owner have more than 2 submition. Now COP & I witness have the same owner, I dont know what will he explain.

    The orignal from Kal J:
    "As we contacted the top 10 we found that some of the team members for two of the submissions did not meet the eligibility criteria so the submissions were withdrawn."

  • Manager   •   over 13 years ago

    Hi Kim Juan,

    To clarify - the the two previous submissions were not withdrawn because they shared members. There isn't a requirement for the finalists to have different team members.

    All the best.

  •   •   over 13 years ago

    In the http://communities.challenge.my/rules

    Last sentence of 1a of 1. Eligibility
    "An individual may join more than one team and/or organisation"
    so why you disqualify those 2 previous project and let Sungai Milik Kita to replace?

    In fact, Sungai Milik Kita more than 800 words which should be disqualified.

  • Manager   •   over 13 years ago

    Hi Kim Juan,

    In this case it was the team members that did not meet the eligibility requirements for the competition.

    Thanks

  •   •   over 13 years ago

    rule is rule
    I am still waiting the organization's official explanation.

    Why it is so important?
    1. It is unfair to 481 submission from thousand of citizen of Malaysia, if we already know half of the selected projects breach the rules.
    2. This competition carry the name of government and "Janji ditepati". Therefore it is very serious.
    3. This is the first year competition. The organizer must do it well in order to encourage people to voice out their idea in the coming year.
    4. From those 481 submission, I don't think it is so hard to find good idea to replace the unqualified project.
    5. Organizer spend 3 weeks to filter the project. Before do the announcement, they have time and responsible to make sure all selected project fulfill the rules.
    6. I am not focus on the judgement of the feasibility, but which breach the contest rules should be replaced by other qualified projects.
    7. The organizer also encourage people to share idea in www.genovasi.my and cradle. If this contest unfair, people will doubt genovasi/cradle also.
    8. This portal encourage people to voice out, we should be open mind. What is wrong we should correct it.

  •   •   over 13 years ago

    Better you all comments on my idea.. haha..sure tidak kena marah, because its not in the Top 10..
    http://communities.challenge.my/submissions/12241-the-bottle-seaweed-dryer

    Orang tua style of idea..please comment, so that I can improve..BTW, I think , my submison also disqualified, coz I am focusing on specific community..TQ guy..please commentsss

  •   •   over 13 years ago

    yes, this competition is very very discouraging. Now I think most of us dont expect much from the future competitions. Knowing organizers don't even care about rules and judging criteria..

    big dreams can win these competitions then why plan and brainstorm so much to make project more feasible than perfect? A big dream will do. It just doesn't matter right

  •   •   over 13 years ago

    I saw TANDEMIC around here..Tandemic is the company running the MAKEWEEKEND Program kan?

    Sheu yang..wil email to you..I need comments so that I can improve

  • Manager   •   over 13 years ago

    Thanks for feedback -- we definitely agree there is room for improvement in the challenges to come.

    All the best.

  •   •   over 13 years ago

    the 10 projects..... hard to implement.. this competition fully unfair.. anywy good luck..

  •   •   over 13 years ago

    I really hope in the future rule will stay 100 % rule, no matter how impressive the idea was. If the contestant stated as finalist has breach the rules, then on what aspect did the competition held? Contestant can't said they forgot to read carefully the rules & organizer can't said that the idea is too good even breaching the rules. Please do implement the whole rules otherwise this competition is nothing, not achieving the objectives & put anger to those who disqualified.

  •   •   over 13 years ago

    Ag Ahmad M,

    I have read your idea. and I like your idea too. From all the projects, your idea is quite special, therefore I remember your project. Too pity judges doesn't appreciate it.

  •   •   over 13 years ago

    I am no agree that:
    "Thanks for feedback -- we definitely agree there is room for improvement in the challenges to come."

    since you are the professional party, to improve, improve now.

  •   •   over 13 years ago

    My suggestion:

    Suggestion A
    1. drop the project with more than 800 words,
    2. reselect other project to replace those drop.
    3. delay 1 week for public to vote.
    4. delay 1 week to announce the wining project.

    Suggestion B
    1. Drop those project more than 800 words,
    2. Only open vote for remaining project.
    3. Those remaining prize keep for next contest.

  •   •   over 13 years ago

    hahaha sheu yang,

    this forum is also a community, and we are trying to solve this community's problem. Any suggestion to solve the problem is welcome.

    I suggest that everyone drop a message on the official facebook regard on this issue.

  •   •   over 13 years ago

    Sheu yang t.

    Regarding 100% rules or not, it means whatever terms decided as "rules" should be obeyed, implemented & respected by both contestant and organizer. I don't refer this to all sort of bribe, biased decision that lead to unfair judgement. Stop yourself from any provoke action against the panels as i seen this more to unprofessional actions from the defeated. Tq

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